Sunday, 25 November 2012

Jesus Christ!! Tory MP calls for "unemployment benefit" to be in the form of a "repayable loan"


Tory MP Chris Skidmore is the MP for Kingswood and has a tiny majority of less than 3,000 votes. For the period he remains as an MP he is working very hard to influence Tory policy direction on various matters from health to unemployment. His latest piece will strike fear into the heart of every person who has been made redundant, or who has struggled through hundreds of job applications only to be constantly rejected. 

The Tory MP (in this piece) has called for various changes to our benefit system. One of the changes is to force those (under 25) who recieved unemployment benefits to pay them back once they get a job. The Tory MP argues


"For individuals aged under 25 who have not yet paid National Insurance contributions for a certain period, perhaps five years, unemployment benefit should be in the form of a repayable loan. An unemployed teenager would still receive the same amount of cash as now, for example, but they would be expected to repay the value once in work. "

Given that long term youth unemployment is at a 16 year high, and that nearly 1 million of our young persons are unemployed, this policy if enacted would wreak havoc in the lives of our young. The Tories have cut their EMA, tripled their tuition fees and now plan to ban under-25s from receiving Housing Benefit. This latest proposal would be punishing our young for George Osborne's failures to grow the economy. Why should our youth be punished for Tory double dip recessions? Why should are youth repay unemployment payments while millionaires get tax cuts? Is this the Britain you voted for in 2010? If you are under 25 and happen to be out of work, please do not take this gentleman's views too serious. We in Labour regard you as an asset, not a burden. We in Labour have a vision that offers you sustainable employment where you will feel a valued, and not a stigmatised, member of society.

The Tory MP calculates that a young person could be expected to pay up to £20,000 in unemployment payments back to the state. Given that 20% of Graduates remain unemployed after 2 years we could very well be in the situation of charging someone £27,000 for a degree and then a further £10,000 in punishment loans for failing to convert their valuable degree into a job. 


42 comments:

joe hill said...

This reminds me of an incident in the Thatcher era when a Lord Hobbnod-Gobb sat in on a meeting discussing Library funding.
"well its simple isn't it" said the old duffer
"just put up the fee"
There was puzzled look around the room and a younger Gobb pointed out that there wasn't a fee at a "lending library".
"WHAT?" the Lord shouted, "YOU mean they get them for FREE?"

Embra said...

It's pretty clear that the Tories have given up folks 25 and under as a lost cause (their very own 47% moment). I'm guessing, since the whole lot of them clearly can't think more than half a move ahead, they've not considered how the parents of those folks are going to feel about all of this.

Mark said...

Looking at his Telegraph piece, I find his dogma quite chilling. I'm surprised he didn't say "Arbeit macht frei"

leonora said...

It just gets worse, doesn't it....

Asylum Why said...

Post Labour, the DWP were left skint. They already chase up those to pay back crisis loans, chase pensioners for money owed from 30 to 40 years ago - it's no big revelation really.
Three wrongs don't make a right, i.e. THREE political parties who've failed the peasants of the land who voted "Better the Devil You Know".
Still believe in 'One Nation'?!
Please.

kelly rose said...

If they made some jobs for people to go too. There would'nt be a problem

kelly rose said...

This is getting beyond a joke! If there was jobs for people to go into there would not be such a problem.

Yvonne De Carlo said...

If this goes ahead I predict a riot

Martin Chadwick said...

Good to draw this to wider attention, but no need at all to begin with 'Jesus Christ!!'

Martin Chadwick said...

Good to draw this alarming proposal to wider attention, but no need at all to begin with 'Jesus Christ!!'

Martin Chadwick said...

Good to draw this to wider attention, but no need at all to begin with 'Jesus Christ!!'

jasa said...

We need radical solutions and welfare state is unsustainable. Everything must be up for discussion. Fact is though that govt has no credibility until we see banksters punished for rackateering on LIBOR. Why don't they just keep printing money out of thin air.? Financial c ollapse is certain, just not when.

Teresa said...

A regime with no soul has no limits to its bullying and cruel profit making techniques as there is no conscience in evil greed which is what it is about,so I am not surprised.
No doubt have their mate's private companies like payday loans, all waiting to start the lending.
The objective from the very start, from an unelected small body of incompetent and inexperienced priviledged individuals who greatly lack in life's realities, has been to demonise all of the welfare system and get rid of it
Unemployed?lazy scum,sick??fraudulent scum,
disabled?cheating scum!
Working? cheating housing benefit scum!
Student? moaning scum who ought to think themselves lucky to pay for education!
NHS worker?moaning too well paid scum!
Pensioner? using up NHS resources elderly scum!
Really over the last 2 years,I have observed streets full of on the whole--- happy,cheerful people just going about their lives and managing knowing the country's rulers weren't a literal physical and mental danger to their well being.
I see cars and vans on the road driven so badly and with the "body language" of fear,stress,debt and hopelessness at the destruction of every thing held dear by the population.
I see carers in despair as they plead for help as the amoral DWP and ATOS deny entitlements to very ill people,the learning disabled ,to name only one example of thousands,are being forced to go to job centre interviews and say they are fit for work.Thousands are losing their lives due to ATOS because of this vile government.
We now have a miserable,unhappy country,with worker abuse,workfare,deaths from corruption,wealth gaps increasing and a despicable ethos of spitefully dividing people and using propaganda to cause hostility towards one's fellow man.
The country is being battered about like a piece of paper in a hurricane,legal aid gone,NHS gone,morality-gone,welfare -almost gone,council services-gone,Spare bedroom?-off you go then,evicted onto the streets or hundreds of miles from home.
The UK is like a flower that has had weed killer poured on to it and it is wilting and dying.We must get them out and asap!
I only know a fraction of the damage done by this unelected band of bullies ,no doubt everyone has a story to tell?
One tired out, slandered,pensioner carer who has had every shred of dignity removed by the most callous government in recent history.


Teresa said...

A regime with no soul has no limits to its bullying and cruel profit making techniques as there is no conscience in evil greed which is what it is about,so I am not surprised.
No doubt have their mate's private companies like payday loans, all waiting to start the lending.
The objective from the very start, from an unelected small body of incompetent and inexperienced priviledged individuals who greatly lack in life's realities, has been to demonise all of the welfare system and get rid of it
Unemployed?lazy scum,sick??fraudulent scum,
disabled?cheating scum!
Working? cheating housing benefit scum!
Student? moaning scum who ought to think themselves lucky to pay for education!
NHS worker?moaning too well paid scum!
Pensioner? using up NHS resources elderly scum!
Really over the last 2 years,I have observed streets full of on the whole--- happy,cheerful people just going about their lives and managing knowing the country's rulers weren't a literal physical and mental danger to their well being.
I see cars and vans on the road driven so badly and with the "body language" of fear,stress,debt and hopelessness at the destruction of every thing held dear by the population.
I see carers in despair as they plead for help as the amoral DWP and ATOS deny entitlements to very ill people,the learning disabled ,to name only one example of thousands,are being forced to go to job centre interviews and say they are fit for work.Thousands are losing their lives due to ATOS because of this vile government.
We now have a miserable,unhappy country,with worker abuse,workfare,deaths from corruption,wealth gaps increasing and a despicable ethos of spitefully dividing people and using propaganda to cause hostility towards one's fellow man.
The country is being battered about like a piece of paper in a hurricane,legal aid gone,NHS gone,morality-gone,welfare -almost gone,council services-gone,Spare bedroom?-off you go then,evicted onto the streets or hundreds of miles from home.
The UK is like a flower that has had weed killer poured on to it and it is wilting and dying.We must get them out and asap!
I only know a fraction of the damage done by this unelected band of bullies ,no doubt everyone has a story to tell?
One tired out, slandered,pensioner carer who has had every shred of dignity removed by the most callous government in recent history.


TT4079 said...

Which should be paid back first? Huge student loan or unemployment benefit as despite having qualifications they still cannot get a job?

Cristina Carraro said...

What about giving them the money we pay in taxes in the form of a repayable loan? If they don't do what we want them to do with it, they have to repay every penny.

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Thedelboy said...

this is more asylum politics ! when are the other members of the house going to call a "No Confidence" vote on these morons ? we have all heard of the "Arab Spring" soon it will be the European /UK winter!! folk are not going to stand for this much longer(in my case sit or hunch) there must be some mps with balls to stand up to them ! why oh why do they think they will get away with it??

Anonymous said...

Maybe they can start charging young people to leave the country because that is what I want to do right now... how sad that things can't improve while people like this are in power.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they can start charging young people to leave the country because that is what I want to do right now... how sad that things can't improve while people like this are in power.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they can charge for young people to leave the country because that is what I want to do now... how sad that things can't improve from an already terrible situation.

Stoner said...

this article doesnt surprise me one bit... over the past few years the youth in our country has been let down and punished for problems they didnt commit!! they constantly go on about broken britain, family issues and hoodies and the blame seems to squarely fall on the younger generations heads just because of a few bad eggs.

still here is a completely valid question, given that we have spent billions of tax payers money bailing out the banks and the banks speculated way too much of our hard earned money which lead up to the financial crisis, then this begs the question "Why arent they being forced to pay back what they speculated and the bailouts?" after all not only did they speculate with our money they had to be bailed out from exactly the same fund that welfare is derived from aka "The Tax Payer".

That being said.. not that l agree with the articles despicable idea from a tory politician, but if the system was fair and the wealthy paid their way rather than dodged tax as they do then maybe this idea wouldnt be so sickening and hypocritical coming from someone who likely uses an accountant to wriggle out of paying his taxes properly like everyone else.

Just Jane said...

And this is really going to encourage young people to move into work? For goodness sake!!!

Just Jane said...

Another genius Tory idea. Question: How is this going to give any incentive to young people to move on into work? For goodness sake!!!!

Jonathan said...

Well at this rate being in prison is better than freedom

W Walker said...

laydeez and gentlepeeps...i give yu....the nasty party, the very best recruiting tool ever invented to the cause of socialism....perhaps we should make MP's salaries a repayable loan....maybe if these f#ck-wits are so keen on them they and their city spiv pals could repay all of the money they suddenly needed to prop up the banks after they gambled it all...and while they are at it maybe they could repay all the money they have got their dodgy accountants to save them in taxes...then maybe we could afford to build a loony bin big enough to keep these dangerous sociopaths away from society....what an effing nerve these tossers have

Pete said...

How evil. They force disabled people to claim unemployment benefit, then put them in debt if they're too sick to be employed. Do they want to drive people to kill themselves?

Groc said...

We need to get millionaires out of parliament altogether - they're far too detached from reality now and they only ever represent themselves.

Workingclasswoman said...

If this goes ahead there should be a riot, the poor are already being used as scape goats for this rubbish government, we'll see people begging on the streets because they have to choose to pay rent or buy food.

jasa said...

Tax & spend seems the only solution that public/govt are prepared to countenance. Where will it end?

People, wake up! We face QE to infinity and that means value of money destruction. How long has BOE been wrong on inflation forecasts now? It is propaganda & MOPE! We are being robbed to pay the bondholders & banksters. Who has gone to prison for rackateering over LIBOR? Who is in prison for the massive frauds over sub-prime and helping to bankrupt the country? Fred the Shred? Anyone???? The law does not apply to the elites anymore, the govts. just let them get away with robbing everyone blind. Why should YOU pay tax when they can just print money out of air? The 1% do not pay tax!:

Goldman Sachs let off paying £10m interest on failed tax avoidance scheme
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/oct/11/goldman-sachs-interest-tax-avoidance


"It blurs the divide between fiscal and monetary policy even more, and some may well say that this is tantamount to monetising the deficit," he added.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/09/bank-of-england-gilts-interest

And yet you go to prison for stealing water or underwear.

I am a capitalist, but what we have now is not capitalism it is a merge of corporatism and govt, commonly known as fascism. The banks are still bust and yet get loans at 0.5% yet can you get a mortgage at that rate or even a loan? No! they get free money whist we get screwed! Only apply for a bailout it you are already a BILLIONAIRE!

The answer is individual freedom and responsibility. Back to our roots, everyone responsible for themselves and their own. No more handouts, no more welfare, MUCH SMALLER GOVT, no more little Hitler councils. Stick to protecting individual and national property rights is what govt. should do. Leave us in peace to live our lives in a free market! It will not happen of course. Everyone just LOVES the gravy train, from civil servants to Europe to unemployed with big gardens, no veg plot, and SKY TV! Why not? I can live for FREE! Let someone else pay for me and my family.

We are facing financial collapse, it is just a matter of timing. Start growing veg, join a food co-op, start buying precious metals, stock up your cupboards. They still have drought in the US which means even higher food prices next year...

We need a system reset. It will come and it will be a very dark time indeed for all. Hopefully we may come out the other side with a much better, much freeer society. Such is my dream, and if not, well there is always emigration to Uruguay!

Cirret said...

Apparently "we" can't afford to have poor people or working people any more. You might think that if the state needs to subsidise workers, labour is underpriced. You might think that if the system doesn't deliver a reasonable living standard for all, we need to make it better - not worse. Radical ideas that you will not hear in our public discourse, which has had a hostile takeover by Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Paul Heritage said...

Your born, you live, work, pay to live then you die.

JanH said...

ooohhhh, see and like your thinking there x

JanH said...

ooohhhhh, see and like your thinking there, should stop a lot of the freeloading idiots x

Nick said...

if this is the conservative way of thinking then that would account for the successive wars that go on throughout the world
you may be able to bully and threaten the sick and disabled along with the younger generation but the middle eastern countries and north Korea will always fight back when threatened

what we need is more genuine younger mp's whose sole aim is to help the less fortunate and not to talk garbage and stab the weakest in the back

if the mp's wont to engage in garbage politics then they should head off into Syria and likes where I'm sure they would be most welcome

Siônnyn said...

No doubt the funding and administration of these loans will be outsourced too some fine upstanding, morally irreproachable (Tory funding) company like WONGA.com.

aileen said...

GET THEM OUT.DONT LET THEM IN POWER FOR DECADES. THEY MAKE A MESS AND THEN LABOUR HAS TO DO THE IMPOSSIBLE AND UNPOPULAR BUT FAIR.

DEPRESSINGLY FAMILIAR OF THE TORIES BUT THE SPINELESS ALLIES IN THE LIB PACT SHOULD ALSO BE RELEGATED TOO

amaqula said...

Please don't take His Holy name in vain.....thanks. Otherwise what are you going to say to Him on the Last Day?!!

Mum paraszczuk said...

If you look closely at what the Tories are up there seems to be a pattern emerging, perhaps you could call it a cunning plan for us 'unwashed masses' they hold in such obvious contempt.Not long after the election Lord Fraud decided the credit unions wouldn't get any more of the funding they'd had under Labour and got some of the big banks involved in a US style makeover forcing the ones who wanted to survive to 'modernise' and become more like banks. Now they can offer loans at higher interest rates and are, in my opinion, earmarked for eventual takeover by the likes of Barclays and J P Morgan. Result, high interest loans for the poor.
Add that together with the failure to cap interest rates offered by pay day loan companies which goes hand in hand with the donations made by some of these sharks to the Tory party I don't think its difficult to imagine a time when Universal Credit will be just that - credit loaned to the poor by the government via their mates in the City to be repaid at huge interest. The downward pressure on wages by multinationals can only increase the potential of this business. After all, in the 'global race' as Cameron is sickeningly fond of telling us, Britain has to be competitive. What could be better for the inhabitants of Planet Cameron than a sweatshop economy and a slave labour force indentured for life?

JEFD said...

I agree with your sentiments, but why do you start with a blasphemy. I'm pretty certain that you would go out of you way NOT to offend a muslim but why do Christians get so little rerspect?

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